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    A study center with numerous cozy nooks in one sheltered area, in another area a reading room/stage for lectures and small audience performances. A children's room, in the traditional library sense. There exist any number of great library programs and uses we have, at this time, neither the space nor the money for.

    And as for the physical media taking up all that space, staff and funding? The answer would be an automated storage and retrieval system (ASRS), a now ubiquitous technology run by minimum wage employees in any/all modern warehouse - and numerous libraries:

    To obtain an item from the library's inventory, computer access to its indexing system will describe the location of the book and whether it is available. If it is requested, the ASRS will retrieve the bin in which it is stored and move the bin to a library employee, who will remove the item and place it for pickup.

    The system requires only one-seventh as much space as would be needed to store a similar volume of items using conventional shelving, according to Todd Hodges, director of market development with the system's manufacturer, HK Systems, New Berlin, Wis. The bins are 24 inches wide, 48 inches long and have heights ranging from 6 inches to 18 inches.
    With an ASRS system freeing up more than seven times more floor space than currently (indeed, it would take up less than half the basement) and eliminating a huge number of extremely expensive positions - well, the possibilities are obvious when you dedicate the entire above ground building to people, not storage.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jombl View Post
    A study center with numerous cozy nooks in one sheltered area, in another area a reading room/stage for lectures and small audience performances. A children's room, in the traditional library sense. There exist any number of great library programs and uses we have, at this time, neither the space nor the money for.

    And as for the physical media taking up all that space, staff and funding? The answer would be an automated storage and retrieval system (ASRS), a now ubiquitous technology run by minimum wage employees in any/all modern warehouse - and numerous libraries:



    With an ASRS system freeing up more than seven times more floor space than currently (indeed, it would take up less than half the basement) and eliminating a huge number of extremely expensive positions - well, the possibilities are obvious when you dedicate the entire above ground building to people, not storage.....
    You had me at cozy nooks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GE Fan View Post
    You had me at cozy nooks...
    Didn't he play drums for Jeff Beck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jombl View Post
    A study center with numerous cozy nooks in one sheltered area, in another area a reading room/stage for lectures and small audience performances. A children's room, in the traditional library sense. There exist any number of great library programs and uses we have, at this time, neither the space nor the money for.
    Don't we kind of already have that stuff? Maybe not the stage but during the Christmas walk, they find places in the library to hold small performances. As it is, neither the current adult nor the kids section are classic librarian "Shhhhhhhh Zones". So there wouldn't be a huge change to put a 1 foot high stage by the east window so you and your hipster friends can have your Moth Radio hour or whatever you're after...........

    They also currently have some multi purpose rooms. And there are already cozy nooks (just ask the PADS folks that sleep "read" in them). Is there really some major call for additional space that you describe?

    The ASRS - while cool - sounds like a sizable capital expenditure in equipment. And with our luck it will work as well as a floral clock!

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    An ASRS at the university level holding over half a million books cost less than 1/2 of what we paid for the library roof. No one here in Glen Ellyn even noticed the cost of the roof.

    It would pay for itself in the labor savings, and the long term dividends would be the building now emptied of storage and opened for people while freeing up huge sums of money. Millions of dollars a year potentially.

    ASRS has been used for a few libraries since the 1960s, without complaint or glitch. Today the technology is omnipresent, cheap and robust enough to be the logistical foundation for much of our economy.

    Our current GEPL is a very expensive and labor intensive book museum. Why shouldn't we consider modern alternatives that might free up an entire building and add millions to the budget long term?




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    For some reason I thought ASRS was sort of connected to Iron Mountain (which my firm used for off site storage for anything we didn't need on hand within 12 hours - I think we set our service agreement on next day delivery and they met that standard pretty often) and is currently more used by large university and research libraries for the more archival parts of their collections. Our own use of Iron Mountain declined as we moved work product to proprietary electronic storage.

    Could you point me to local, non-research, public libraries that use this system currently? Now I'm curious at what size and type of library will use of ASRS pays off?

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