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    Guns in Illinois schools

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    Clark, Buchholz, Currie and D'Ambrosio vote to recommend the adoption of IASB resolution 2. Bruno, Nelson and Loebach vote no.

    Why suburban school districts are discussing arming teachers

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    Here is the text of the Resolution:

    BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Illinois Association of School
    Boards shall: support and advocate for legislation which
    provides local school boards the option of developing
    Student Safety and Protection Plans which may include
    administrators, faculty, and/or other staff who have
    completed a state approved training course above and
    beyond concealed carry training, who have passed the
    multiple background checks and qualifications required
    for a concealed carry license, or have a current concealed
    carry license issued under the Law Enforcement Officers
    Safety Act. Only staff who fulfill all requirements listed
    would be eligible as an active and armed part of the
    Student Safety and Protection Plan, upon being granted
    board approval.

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    And here are the Rationales of the proposing District and of the IASB Resolutions Committee behind their recommendation that the School Boards vote to adopt the resolutions. (My underlines for emphasis)

    "Statement of Rationale: Every year concern for student
    safety grows with more tragic events in our nation’s schools.
    The safety and protection of our students and school staff is
    one of the top priorities in each district. Districts are looking
    for new ways to keep those who enter our buildings safe. One
    proposal is to allow local school districts the option to have
    armed staff in their buildings.

    The Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990, sponsored by then Senator
    Joe Biden and signed into law by then-President
    George H.W.Bush, makes it illegal for anyone “to knowingly
    possess a firearm” within 1,000 feet of a school zone. The
    Gun-Free School Zones Act has exceptions. A teacher can
    bring a gun to school “as part of a program approved by a
    school in the school zone.” As of February, there are at least
    18 states which allow armed adults on school property with
    relatively minor conditions, such as superintendent, school
    board, or administrator/school trustee/ governing officer

    Illinois state law currently does not allow for local control
    of school boards in determining if they want to include an
    option for trained and armed staff to protect their students
    and fellow staff members in an emergency situation
    until aw enforcement arrives. Our neighbors Missouri, Indiana,
    and Kentucky allow districts to decide what is best for
    their communities. Other states that allow armed adults on
    school grounds with certain limitations include California,
    New York, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Jersey,
    Montana, New Hampshire, Texas, Wyoming, and 5 more.

    Ideal school security plans include SRO’s (school resource
    officers) present at each building students attend. However,
    some schools are unable to employ full time security due to
    a lack of financial resources.
    SRO’s are often only on site for
    a few hours per day and one officer at a time. In our district
    for example, our SRO is only on site at the high school, with
    a set number of hours per day. He is within a short driving
    distance to two other buildings in the same town. Two of our
    remaining buildings have no SRO coverage and are not close
    enough to the high school to be within a short response time.
    Another problem, mainly found in rural areas, is the distance
    school buildings are from local law enforcement teams.

    Mercer County School District has five buildings in three
    towns. Our square miles makes us the 5th largest school
    district in Illinois based on area. Three buildings sit in a
    town with its own police force that is also a county seat and
    home of the Sheriff’s department. Our fourth building is
    in another town 10 minutes away. Our fifth building, an
    elementary school, is in a town 21 minutes away. The town
    has one officer and is backed up by the sheriff’s department
    with an approximately 20 minute response time to get there.
    We are certain that our district is not in the worst response
    time situation in Illinois.

    The most misunderstood part of discussion on this topic is that
    this resolution is about LOCAL CONTROL, one of IASB’s
    top priorities.
    This resolution, if adopted, would not compel
    or require any school district or school board to develop
    or implement any such trained and armed staff plan. Our
    state is not homogenous north to south, east to west. Our
    communities and districts differ greatly. Some communities
    are perfectly comfortable with having their teachers and
    school staff trained and armed so they can protect the
    people in their buildings. Other communities are adamantly
    opposed to the idea. That is OK! The districts in our state
    should be allowed to determine what is best for them, rather
    than those in Springfield who do not know or understand
    communities outside their own.

    Resolutions Committee Rationale: Similar to other
    proposals, this resolution calls for the Association to support
    and advocate for local options for schools, including for armed
    district personnel subject to training, background checks,
    licensure and board approval. However, this resolution calls
    for locally approved training above and beyond that required
    for concealed carry.

    The Firearm Concealed Carry Act (PA 98-63), effective July
    9, 2013, prohibited any concealed carry in “any building, real
    property, and parking area under the control of a public or
    private elementary or secondary school.”
    During negotiations on the legislation before it passed the
    General Assembly, discussions included the possibility of each
    individual school board having the authority to decide what
    the policy would be within its district. Both the proponents
    and the opponents of the legislation dismissed this idea. The
    concealed carry proponents wanted no regulation on school
    property and the opponents wanted a complete prohibition
    on school property.

    School districts are also governed by the federal Gun-Free
    School Zones Act of 1990, which makes it unlawful for any
    unauthorized individual from possessing a firearm in a
    school zone. Exceptions include if an individual possessing
    a firearm is licensed to do so by the state in which the
    school zone is located. Individuals in Illinois would not
    have violated the federal Gun-Free School Zones Act if they
    carried a concealed weapon in a school zone, if State law had
    not prohibited it.
    Many states have similar laws providing the change sought in
    this proposal. After the school shooting tragedy in Parkland,
    Florida in February of 2018, the Florida General Assembly
    passed a gun legislation package that included a local district
    option to arm school personnel.

    Committee discussions largely centered on the
    acknowledgement that many rural school districts do not
    have the luxury of the fast response times of emergency
    responders in urban and suburban areas. Because of
    geography, resources, and other limitations, response times
    to emergencies in some rural districts can be as long as 20-30

    There were still concerns about having firearms in schools,
    the stress arming staff could put on teachers, and finding
    assurances that the proper training was in place. When the
    point was emphasized that this was absolutely permissive
    for each individual school board, and when the submitting
    districts agreed to amend the proposal to require a statewide
    training standard (instead of training approved by the school
    board), the Committee came to a consensus.
    The Resolutions Committee RECOMMENDS DO ADOPT.

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    Seems like a no-brainer. Well done, Clark, Buchholz, Currie and D'Ambrosio.

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    exactly, especially amazing that the IASB resolutions committee actually supported this one....

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